An interesting Thornton City Council meeting

The tally from last night’s city council vote on reducing the sales tax vendor fee.
I usually refrain from commenting on issues dealing with the City of Thornton itself as I have learned that politics, even on the local level, can be a nasty affair. My commentary on city affairs in the past has impacted other, non-related endeavors which is of course entirely unfair but a sad reality.
Nevertheless, after watching the video from last night’s council meeting, I have to comment. Among other things, the city was considering a measure which would reduce the sales tax vendor fee that businesses retain as an incentive for collecting and returning sales taxes. Click here to view the text of the measure.
Even for most small businesses in Thornton, the fee is pretty negligible but in these tough economic times, every penny does count. The changes council voted on and approved last night would cost the average small business in Thornton $13.00 per year and overall, all Thornton businesses an average of $79.00. The top 50 businesses like Wal-Mart and others will lose out on $1,500 per year. The end result is that the city adds an additional $300,000 or so to its coffers – again, not a lot of money.
As a small business owner in Thornton myself (a VERY small one), I really am kind of ambivalent on the issue. The money lost by business and gained by the city is a small amount. For the city, with a budget of $200 million, $300,000 is a drop in the bucket. I tend to believe the money is best left in the hands of business, especially with the current economic situation and the policies of our president putting a strain on businesses.
One city resident and candidate for a seat on city council in Ward III, Brian Thornton, has been making a lot of waves in the city over this issue and a previous one related to business and political candidate access to city events. Mr. Thornton is motivated and would seem to truly want to do the right thing but his means and methods have a habit of rubbing folks the wrong way. In a short period of time he has managed to make everyone from city council and city staff to even folks in his own party more than a bit uncomfortable. Certainly stirring up the status quo is not a bad thing but I think Mr. Thornton needs to evaluate his methods. You can read more about Mr. Thornton’s view on this issue on YourHub here.
At last night’s meeting Mr. Thornton made a plea for council to vote no on the vendor fee measure. Councilperson Carol Beckler took the opportunity to let Mr. Thornton have it ending her comments by telling Mr. Thornton, “if you’re so unhappy here, rather than run for office, I think it would nice if you moved to Ft. Collins or Westminster and we won’t miss you.”
Wow! Whether or not one agrees with Councilmember Beckler, saying that on city-wide television may not have been the best choice.
Councilmember / Mayor Pro Tem Steve Lebsock and Mayor Erik Hansen followed up with commentary trying to cool things down and reminding folks that right or wrong, citizens have a right to speak. Hansen played peacemaker saying, “I don’t think we want to turn this into a pissing match, Council. <snip> We should be treating folks with respect regardless if their facts are straight or regardless of whether we agree or disagree with their position.”
Beckler did later say, “I apologize for getting mad.”
In the end the measure passed with Hansen, Lebsock and Councilperson Beth Humenik the only dissenting votes.
Lebsock did not necessarily oppose the merits of the measure but did reasonably point out that the city had a Business Advisory Council and that the community and business leaders on that board should have had an opportunity to weigh the issue and voice their opinion. It is hard to disagree with that.
For his part, Mayor Hansen reminded council that businesses are the ones that bring in the tax money that the city lives (and dies) by and that create the jobs that we desperately need. He said, “I would rather have it [the money] in the hands of the private sector than with the government. <snip> I don’t think it’s very fair to tighten our belts a little bit less and ask businesses to tighten their belt a little bit more which is essentially what this resolution does.”
All Brian Thornton is doing is making enemies. His slash and burn campaign is turning off council and staff not to mention the citizens of Thornton. While he may be fooling some in the business community, that won’t last and the only thing sinking as fast as his campaign is his reputation.
The thing about having a voice is being aware of the issues. Most businesses are very unavailable to City Council policies that affect them.
Without a last name “Kevin”, and extreme words like “all”, and “slash and burn”.
I strongly urge and ask you to be part of council conversation either through the bi-weekly planning sessions or bi-weekly council meetings.
That involvement might make a big difference between support and nonsupport of policies to our city.
I am not sure why council would choose to do anything to harm business – especially at a time like this. The city is facing a $10 million budget shortfall and the amount of money this issue raises really doesn’t amount to much. Thornton lives and dies by its tax revenue and doing anything to offend business is like biting the hand that feeds you.
I met Brian Thornton at ThorntonFest and he seemed like a nice, genuine guy and he probably does simply wish to improve the city. He has some good ideas. I do think though he needs someone to ‘manage his message’ and maybe manage him a bit.
Thornton is probably one of the best run cities in the metro area (if not THE best) and it isn’t going to be well received when a relative newcomer comes in and seems to say everything they are doing is wrong.
What’s been said in the Thornton Community is that This is yet another example and real life situation, where a city business owner and city resident, who has served the city and residents in multiple ways is treated when providing feedback.
The fee as Eric Tade explained takes money from small businesses and large businesses alike, not all but those who had that money before do not after this policy takes effect.
Again, if you have something to say of content or quality. Please do so.